Thats convenient, because that is white supremacists’ best (and pretty much only) strategy for making themselves seem mainstream: latching on to respectable people with whom they happen to agree.

if the goal of the discussion was a serious presentation of policy, Simcox wouldn’t have been invited. Outside of his border activities, is there any reason to consider Simcox an expert on immigration policy?

By this logic, Enrique Morones shouldn’t have been invited either. Morones did a lot more at the panel to derail the discussion than Simcox, and was a lot more disrespectful. I think the CRs actually did open-borders supporters a disservice by inviting such a demagogue.

Almost all the objections to the Minutemen rely on guilt-by-association. Despite all the hearsay and huffing and puffing by anonymous people claiming association with the group, where are the documented instances of violence?

As for Morones, you’re right. He doesn’t present serious policy ideas. I agree entirely. I don’t object to his presence because I think he was needed to counter Simcox. However, there is an element to the debate that I would argue is more important than policy - the human element. Like on that commercial. And, at the very least, Morones is useful to report the dangers immigrants face on the border. If Simcox hadn’t been there, though, I don’t think Morones needed to be.

As for documented instances of violence, it’s very difficult to prove anything that happens in the open desert. It’s also very difficult to prove allegations of child molestation, which may or may not have benefited Mr. Simcox.

I understand and respect your position, but it seems to me that the most productive way for the protesters to have responded to Simcox et al. would have been to treat him the way they would expect conservatives to treat one of their controversial guests on the opposite side of spectrum. Any time you conclude that “he should not be considered a valuable asset” to discussion, you’re opening up opportunities for your opponents to say the same about someone you support — and nothing gets done.

The obvious reason that Republicans are so upset is that this the vicious cycle above isn’t balanced at all; whenever a liberal says something controversial (see my forthcoming blog post), freedom of speech is all that is needed to justify it. But conservatives who want the same freedoms have to go through an obstacle course of hate, racism and academic validity tests. It’s uneventful when a liberal says a conservative doesn’t contribute to academic discussion.

I know that I’m opening up opportunities for opponents to say the same about someone I support — Eric said the same about Morones. And I agreed with him. If the panel was supposed to discuss immigration policy, neither had a real reason to attend.

And any NYU liberal protesting Mr. Simcox would have told you that he’s afforded the same free speech rights. The NYU contingent decided before the protest that they did not want Simcox banned from speaking. The activists outside who were saying no free speech for racists were not NYU students. Some of them were Stalinists, apparently. I didn’t know Stalinists still existed.

It’s not a question of liberalism or conservatism. How is Simcox qualified to contribute to an academic discussion? He’s a former kindergarten teacher who created a media frenzy because of vigilante activity.

Eric: I watched that movie last night, oddly enough, and kept thinking that Walter embodies the Minuteman ethos.

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Yea, he totally does.

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